Comments on: Enlightenment Riddles http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/ Zen-Inspired Self Development Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:32:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Andres http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-10444 Andres Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:55:42 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-10444 Read your post with great interest, though unfortunately the topics of which it treats are a bit removed from my own area of understanding, philosophy. Nonetheless it was a pleasure to read it and surely threw light on how what is involved in to trying to see daisies. I was specially struck by this paragraph: "If, however, you are interpreting words as pointers, you will face yet another challenge. And here I’ll have to engage in riddle-talk myself. Because these pointers aren’t pointing toward anything. Anything they can point toward is just a descriptor." Perhaps the work of Wittgenstein seems to come close to what you have written. Andrés Read your post with great interest, though unfortunately the topics of which it treats are a bit removed from my own area of understanding, philosophy. Nonetheless it was a pleasure to read it and surely threw light on how what is involved in to trying to see daisies.

I was specially struck by this paragraph:

“If, however, you are interpreting words as pointers, you will face yet another challenge. And here I’ll have to engage in riddle-talk myself. Because these pointers aren’t pointing toward anything. Anything they can point toward is just a descriptor.”

Perhaps the work of Wittgenstein seems to come close to what you have written.

Andrés

]]> By: Kenton Whitman http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-10533 Kenton Whitman Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:41:22 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-10533 Greetings Andres! I have very little knowledge regarding philosophy and its famous voices, so I'm always excited to hear the name of someone who seems to touch on the same subjects I've been touching on here. Wittgenstein, you say? I'll have to check on him and learn a little more. It seems that whenever I do explore philosophy a bit, there are a number of voices speaking out to the basic premise that most of what we call 'reality' is a construct -- real, but not in the manner in which we usually conceive. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of something new. Sweetwater, Kenton Greetings Andres!

I have very little knowledge regarding philosophy and its famous voices, so I’m always excited to hear the name of someone who seems to touch on the same subjects I’ve been touching on here. Wittgenstein, you say? I’ll have to check on him and learn a little more. It seems that whenever I do explore philosophy a bit, there are a number of voices speaking out to the basic premise that most of what we call ‘reality’ is a construct — real, but not in the manner in which we usually conceive.

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of something new.

Sweetwater,
Kenton

]]> By: Sac-A-Lait http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-14096 Sac-A-Lait Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:41:22 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-14096 To those who have experienced it, no explanation is necessary, to those who haven't none is possible??? To those who have experienced it, no explanation is necessary, to those who haven’t none is possible???

]]> By: Kenton Whitman http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-14181 Kenton Whitman Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:25:40 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-14181 Greetings Sac-A-Lait, Perhaps so. Sometimes it seems like anything can bring the experience about -- maybe an egg cracking into a pan, or a sudden sound. Perhaps carefully crafted words can serve as such a 'trigger' -- at least as well as the egg. When the words twist upon themselves, they at least help us to see the oddity of our usual world-view. It's a sort of play, leading to more play. Sweetwater, Kenton Greetings Sac-A-Lait,

Perhaps so. Sometimes it seems like anything can bring the experience about — maybe an egg cracking into a pan, or a sudden sound. Perhaps carefully crafted words can serve as such a ‘trigger’ — at least as well as the egg. When the words twist upon themselves, they at least help us to see the oddity of our usual world-view. It’s a sort of play, leading to more play.

Sweetwater,
Kenton

]]> By: Dean http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-22219 Dean Tue, 13 May 2008 20:56:48 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-22219 Excellent post Ken. This is the first writing i've come across that explains the purpose of sutras in this way. Many writings speak of them as signs pointing to something else, but you've gone into much deeper detail on how to approach them wonderfully. Excellent post Ken. This is the first writing i’ve come across that explains the purpose of sutras in this way. Many writings speak of them as signs pointing to something else, but you’ve gone into much deeper detail on how to approach them wonderfully.

]]> By: Kenton Whitman http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-22323 Kenton Whitman Thu, 15 May 2008 20:23:32 +0000 http://kentonwhitman.com/blog/2007/11/18/enlightenment-riddles/#comment-22323 Thank you, Dean -- I'm glad this held clarity for you! Sweetwater, Kenton Thank you, Dean — I’m glad this held clarity for you!

Sweetwater,
Kenton

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